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Page 253 of White Noise Keywords: "rightly," "shoots," "real," "trace" >> >Could be, but Weatherly posts from Seattle and "CB" >> How was that "hypocritical?" I suffer a behavior disorder; >It's interesting to watch As in, I frankly don't care what you think. My conscience is clear. john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo> x-no-archive: yes >"john w @yoo.hoo>" <johnw<no_spam> wrote in message >> You refer to one passage in which Jesus "has a God". You FAIL to refer >Can't find this scripture. Nowhere. Need book, chapter and verse. I suggest you add to your Bible study library half-a-dozen The use of the phrase, "Thy throne, oh God", by the way, might SUGGEST >> If Jesus (the Son) "has a God", then how do you explain that Yhwh (the >> The FACT IS, you are attempting to understand deity in human terms, >> Don't. >> YOu can point to 'Jesus in all ways being submissive unto the Father." >> And you can point to 'the Word (Son) was WITH God (the Father), and >Many other bible translation do not say this because it is a mis- I have some 12 different translations, AND I have the NWT (NOT a true >Verse 1 says: "In the beginning was the word". >Verse 2 says: This one was in [the] beginning with God. Nor am I at ALL convinced that you are a scholar at ANY level. >Look at verse 18: No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god You have YET to deal with John 1:1, other than to twist it into a You also have not dealt with >> If you look for "conflict, disharmony, and confusion", you will surely >> On the other hand, if you look for harmony and Truth, you will also >> Consider Col 2. "For in Him (Christ), dwelt ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE >> That is, Jesus the Christ was ALL that DEITY could be IN HUMAN FORM. >Colossians 2:9: >KJ reads: In him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead >Admittedly, not everyone offers the same interpretation of Colossians Good! Then at LEAST you admit that there are those (MANY scholars) who The PROOF is that if we take each "person" separately, we can study Now, since we KNOW that ONLY God is and ONLY God is Omniscient THEN, if we can show that If we can show that the Son is Omnipotent, He is God. If we can show that the Holy Spirit is Omnipotent, He is God. That is, if each of these "persons" expresses ANY of these qualities We find the Father is Omniscient, He is Omnipotent, and He is Therefore, there are THREE who are God. We call them "The Holy end of discussion. Or is the fullness that dwells in him something that You are seeking a verse here, and you are seeking a verse there, that If we do that, then the first chapter of Ecclesiastes says, "All is All is NOT vain, but you may want to use that as a proof text for That is NOT honest exegesis! >Consider the immediate context of Colossians 2:9: YOu can manipulate and you can twist all you like. There is PLENTY of evidence for the Trinity. And if ANYTHING I said led you to believe I am open to being I am not. john w snip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!mpls-transit- x-no-archive: yes >Dave wrote: >> Could be, but Weatherly posts from Seattle and "CB" is a Comcast >Ahh... >Well, maybe they were separated at birth? I have left you alone for probably a WEEK now. Don't give me cause to jump back on your back. john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com! x-no-archive: yes >Could be, but Weatherly posts from Seattle and "CB" is a Comcast client For you to say that my behavior is "unChristian", is like you saying We each do the best we can with what we have. Do YOU? Before you judge someone, walk a mile in that person's shoes! There IS a reason for such "old sayings." john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes Further investigation MIGHT ALSO lead you to posts in which CB (much CB seems to LIVE for the put-down. Whereas, I (john w), WILL be civil (try it) And while I will not say I will tolerate your lifestyle, I will be as What I will NOT do is to pretend everything's "hunky-dory", while you >Both are Southern Baptists, both make sure their posts are not archived both keep trying to push Romans 1 at me, OTC, I "push" NOTHING at you. You say you are a Christian. I point to Just as someone might say to YOU, "I am a adulterer, and a Christian." both both act like jerks. You have the right to your POV. As do I. And even more and But no, I don't hide from anyone. >I think this is a distinct possibility and would like to hear what >Of course, if either Weatherly or CB refute this claim it would be If you are comfortable with such delusions... >We shall see... Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!mpls-transit- x-no-archive: yes >>On the contrary, I believe that we ARE responsible as citizens to >>all sociopaths, just like Jim Agar, like walksalone, like Elaine, like >Again, O feeble-minded sloth: >YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OR AUTHORIZED, LET ALONE QUALIFIED TO DIAGNOSE >>And the RESPONSIBLE Christian makes sure they are removed from >BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!You call yourself 'responsible'? >>Which I plan to do. >Oh, right- that great big magic conspiracy against all your >You need to sit down and do And you can't even control YOUR behavior, psycho! And I have noticed something VERY interesting, kind of "your patter", hehe ;-) (and you thought I hadn't noticed) chuckle. john w some serious thinking, old boy------ Well, thanks, darlin'! You have in this very post ADMITTED that I I have that much over you. You are stuck in visceral REACTING. Your reasoning has turned itself off. I'm Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? I doubt SERIOUSLY if these psychotic wimps and weirdos, Phar Lap, Jim >Now go back to bed and take your morning pills. You obviously need something else to do instead of (if YOU can "harass innocent people", why can't I?) Control FREAK! john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes ><NOspam@no.spam> wrote in message >> You need to sit down and do some serious thinking, old boy------ I'm >I wouldn't bet the farm Elaine especially if the person that he decided john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!lotsanews.com! x-no-archive: yes >john w wrote: >> >john w wrote: >> >> >> >>>> john w <johnw wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>> If you got that misinformation from my posts, then your >> >> >> >>>>>> Yes indeed, liar johnnie ---------- EVERYONE ELSE is out >> >> >> >>>>>> ALL PART OF YOUR PATTERN. >> >> >> >>> Yes indeed, Sweet-sweet--- Don did indeed- and so many of us >> >> >> > Of course, Elaine isn't the only one obsessive-compulsive when >> >> >> It's really up to the 'scrambled one' to get real help. He's >> >> >> Again it's nice seeing you take the retards little hand and >> >> >What I've done is scriptural. >> >> >"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and >> >> >"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus >> >> >I can understand why unbelievers would think like you've outlined, >> >> Why haven't you yet addressed Jim Agar as someone who very >> >> I believe it is called "being a sociopath." >> >Doesn't really matter what it's called, but regarding your question, >> On the contrary, I believe that we ARE responsible as citizens to >> all sociopaths, just like Jim Agar, like walksalone, like Elaine, like >> And the RESPONSIBLE Christian makes sure they are removed from >> Which I plan to do. >> >[And before anyone else tries to misspell "hypocrite" as "hennekes," >> >> And if he IS a military commander, do you believe for one second >> >But "if" is the keyword. I really don't think he's in the military, >> Are you truly willing to do NOTHING and just ASSUME? >> I am not. >> do you know that Terry Nichols, the guy who helped Tim McVeigh PLAN >> How many mass murderers will YOU not take seriously? >> In fact, I don't believe that anyone that childish and that >> Then I'm sorry for you. >> I believe your judgment is WAY off, and should little Jimmy Agar or >> For all you've said, you are not a responsible adult. >I disagree. Your arguments are based upon secular beliefs, whereas I disagree with your view of scripture, and I THOUGHT I had made that You have not presented anything And if I know someone is DANGEROUS, and I don't turn them in to the Your "interpretation" is convenient, and since you PRETEND to be And it nor will it change Jesus didn't tell us to hide in our closets til He returned; He told >Have a good day, John. john w >JohnH >> john w >> >> john w >> >> >> ujb From: john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo> x-no-archive: yes >> Actually, you had clearly indicted yourself the hypocrite in the >So say Hennekes, but it wasn't addressed to sweet sweet so I didn't have >> All what you've >Is that mountain stream crystal clear to you! >> Besides, your own hypocrisy is not any >Sweet sweet isn't the one railing about hypocrisy. It is our own little I am sure your commander will find it VERY entertaining that you refer ******************* archived ************** (in other words, I'm not the only person who you show your psychotic j >>>>> And if he IS a military commander, do you believe for one second >>>> But "if" is the keyword. I really don't think he's in the military, >>> That's the retards story, sweet sweet is just ujb without any >> Maybe about you being in the military, anyway. The rest is pure >"The rest"? Did sweet sweet overlook parts of your ramble? >>>> In fact, I don't believe that anyone that childish and that >> <SNIP> >> As I've indicated more than once, lil' girl-boy, >You are so ez, you say it's improper for sweet sweet to bestow > > I will deal with you on my terms, not yours. >You might be right, but because Scout Lady shows an astuteness in such Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes >>That's not a "label", Elaine. THat is an HONEST assessment of your >AGAIN, you ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DIAGNOSE ANYONE. AGAIN, if YOU can do it, I can do it. The difference between us, Elaine, is that I am being honest, (and as If YOU can make remarks about MY mental health, I can do the same to I GUARANTEE you, I have had more psychological and psychiatric >>Your ongoing lies, your ongoing libel, and your ongoing plagiarisms, >Libel, no- plagiarism, no- And when you quote me without permission, and without attaching my you are dead wrong on both counts. Well, we will let a judge decide! >>I believe "psycho" suits you. >AGAIN, you ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DIAGNOSE ANYONE. And when I show the right people that you have made that MISTAKE a >>You are psychotic, and it is one of my goals to prove that. >AGAIN, you ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DIAGNOSE ANYONE. I am at LEAST as qualified as you. And when I show the right people that you have made that MISTAKE a >But by all means, continue to be the stubborn ass you are, and try- And, Elaine, you are the LAST person to call anyone a "stubborn ass." You again are projecting. ;-) My psycho friend! Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!mpls-transit- x-no-archive: yes >><walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> >>snip >>> You make the claim, yet there are those with more reason to act like >>WHAT?!?!? Oh my, this is one I haven't heard. Deary me, sounds >Sure you have, you even asked him if she orgasamd. That was the original >walksalone who doubts jw expected people to actually notice, let alone john w Still, lies by implication are not that Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!mpls-transit- x-no-archive: yes >>On the contrary, I believe that we ARE responsible as citizens to >>all sociopaths, just like Jim Agar, like walksalone, like Elaine, like >Again, O feeble-minded sloth: >YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OR AUTHORIZED, LET ALONE QUALIFIED TO DIAGNOSE >>And the RESPONSIBLE Christian makes sure they are removed from >BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!You call yourself 'responsible'? This " LIAR LEGION JOHNNIE DD WEATHERLESS!" starts. As if you actually think you're bothering me! When in fact anyone who read it knows I just pissed you off, and smirk. We are not impressed. john w snip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo> x-no-archive: yes >>x-no-archive: yes >>>>(and I highly recommend that you seek it voluntarily before you are >>>My case in point - here you are AGAIN issuing idle threats. >>Your "case in point?" What "idle threats?" >>If 6 months from today, Jimmy Agar is in jail, will my remarks THEN be >I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you, old boy--- However, I DO recommend that YOU hold YOUR breath! ;-) you won't be (a pathological behavior) >>Shut up, psycho! You don't know anything! >1. I will NOT shut up. Like you just HAD to say that to everyone! Like, we couldn't tell by smirk. cough choke. Why does your mouth smell just like your butt? >>john w And explain what about this post was a lie? You imbecile! john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes >>In article <udc152dujduf158dp5k2uo2ahp6pllpl1j@4ax.com>, NOspam@no.spam >>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:46:20 +1000, PoseiodonsGift@Illiad.com >>> deleted >>> Poseidon, I'm sorry, but to me, this is totally uncalled-for. >>> God is NOT mocked, and especially in that way. >>> Making jokes about a person is one thing, but to make a mockery of >>I don't give a stuff >Fine --- at least I was polite in my request. >>It is time you Christians dealt with this problem >I HAVE been dealing with him for some time. And I bet more people believe I have made more improvement than >>It has gone on long enough The FACT that you've been foaming at the mouth over ME for 6 YEARS now 1. obsessive/compulsive Both are psychoses; get help! (while it's still voluntary) >>My prayer by the way is sincere >Oh??? To wish someone to be put in dirty diapers? >>Oh and I am not an atheist >You sure sound like one. >>My image of God has a sense of humour - what the hell happened to yours >I have a great SOH. >Have a nice day. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes ><NOspam@no.spam> wrote in message >>>x-no-archive: yes >>>>deleted >>>>Poseidon, I'm sorry, but to me, this is totally uncalled-for. >>>>God is NOT mocked, and especially in that way. >>>>Making jokes about a person is one thing, but to make a mockery of >>>Well, Elaine comes to her senses--at least briefly. However, to call >>>chuckle. >> No, a 'smirk' would have sufficed.......... >>>The HONEST person would have said, "Those two individuals are >> I AM honest- but I know YOU cannot realize or acknowledge this, >>>You get .5 points, Elaine! >>>Keep up the good work! >> If YOU 'credited' me with .5 points, weatherless, I consider that to >If you wish to learn and appreciate something worth while, then love to You always seem to be pointing a finger at OTHERS while YOU seem to I was taught as a child to ALWAYS apply any "advice" I wished to give john w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!mpls-transit- x-no-archive: yes >ONE Lord, one faith. (Eph. 4:5) When the apostle Paul under inspiration RO 14:5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; Some were worshipping on Sunday; others INSISTED on worshipping on And to this day, we have those who worship on Sunday, and those who COL 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or By the turn of the first century, we see evidence (if you know how to You are preaching to the wrong crowd, fella! And before you can PREACH the Bible, you need to know it! You obviously do not! john w snipped ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes ><walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> >snip >> You make the claim, yet there are those with more reason to act like Here's a clue, STUPID: sex play between / among children of the same Forced sex between a boy of 8 and two teens of 13 and 15 is a john w Deliberately I would guess. john w >WHAT?!?!? Oh my, this is one I haven't heard. Deary me, sounds sordid. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!mpls-transit-01.news.qwest.net! x-no-archive: yes >"john w @yoo.hoo>" <johnw<no_spam> wrote in message >>>"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message >>>> "john w @yoo.hoo>" <johnw<no_spam> wrote in message >>>>>>LOL >>>>>>It must be the JW mantra: Whatever God says, teach the opposite. >>>>> You need to spell out "Jehovah's Witness" here, ike. Some will >>>> Goodness knows, it'a always ALL ABOUT YOU, jw. >>>Hope you enjoyed yourself Robyn, it was a cheap shot. JW had a >> Thanks, Alan.
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>> >is a Comcast client in the Arlington, Texas area.
>> >There was also a bit of banter between them when
>> >Weatherly hypocritically took "CB" to ask for his unChristian
>> >behavior.
>> CB does not.
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:29:24 GMT, "Joe Tucker" <jtucker46@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:13:27 GMT, Proshome <proshome@libero.it> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>>>Who is YHWH? IMHO, the majority of Christians have been led astray
over
>>>this issue and may very well be following confusion or another
>>>"elohiym", translated from the Hebrew text and referring also to false
>>>gods. After the resurrection of Jesus, He says to Mary M. in John
>>>20:17(KJV) "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but
go
>>>to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your
>>>Father; and to my God, and your God." This is the same God for
Abraham,
>>>Isaac, & Jacob also, and He has his own proper name of YHWH. Now, if
>>>Jesus has a God, and he too is God, how can this be considered
>>>monotheism?
>> to the passage where Yhwh says -- of the Son-- "Thy throne, oh God--
>> shall endure forever."
Trinitarian passages in the entire Bible.
translations OTHER than the NWT. Try the Peshitta, try the LITV, try
the NASB, try the TEV.
to a sincere seeker ( I doubt that you are ) that the passage would be
find able in a King James.
>> Father) ALSO "has a God."
>> within human understanding.
>> the Word WAS GOD (the Father).
translation
>and out of context.
translation). And the ONLY "Bible" I have that is "translated" as YOU
would like it, is the NWT.
>But god had no begining.
>But god had no begining.
who
>is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained
>him.
>So Jesus could not be the father.
what you would like it to mean.
pretzel!
Col 1, Col 2, Rev 1 or Rev 22; Rev 1 and Rev 22 call Jesus Christ "The
Alpha and Omega" (a title reserved for God)
>> find it.
>> find that.
>> GODHEAD (Father/Son/Holy Spirit) in flesh."
[Greek,
>the·o´te·tos] bodily. (A similar thought is conveyed by the renderings
in
>NE, RS, JB, NAB, Dy.) However, NW reads: It is in him that all the
fullness
>of the divine quality dwells bodily. (AT, We, and CKW read God's nature,
>instead of Godhead. Compare 2 Peter 1:4.)
Jesus was a creation and not The Creator. John 1 says that Jesus
Christ created everything that was created. Since Genesis 1 says that
the FATHER created everything, if we align Gen 1 with John 1, it is
clear that Jesus Christ was/ is the Father in human form.
take Colossians 2:9 to mean PRECISELY as I stated: Christ was Father,
Son, and Holy Spirit in flesh.
>Colossians? Did Christ have in himself something that is his because he
is
>God, part of a Trinity?
from Genesis to Revelation (called "systematic theology", a concept
totally FOREIGN to Jehovah's Witnesses), and we find from Genesis to
Revelation that there is One called God the Father. He is Omniscient;
He is Omnipotent; and He is Omnipresent. We next look for the Holy
Spirit, from Genesis through Revelation, and we find HE is He is
Omniscient; He is Omnipotent; and He is Omnipresent.
Omnipotent
the Father is Omnipotent, He is God.
of Deity, that "person" is God.
Omnipresent. the Holy Spirit is as well. The Son is Omnipotent, and
He is Omniscient.
Trinity."
Dy)
>says that all fullness dwelt in Christ because it pleased the Father for
>this to be the case. NE says it was by God's own choice.
MANY years ago is, "Do not of ONE VERSE a proof text make."
seem to say what you WANT to believe.
vain!"
SOMETHING!
recruited...
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On 29 Apr 2006 20:57:00 -0700, "Kelly A. Siebecke"
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>> Kelly A. Siebecke wrote:
>> > Let's take a look at the possibility that John Weatherly
>> > (johnw) is recently posing as "CB" in these forums.
client
>> in the Arlington, Texas area. There was also a bit of banter between
>> them when Weatherly hypocritically took "CB" to ask for his
unChristian
>> behavior.
don't insult.
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On 29 Apr 2006 20:52:54 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Let's take a look at the possibility that John Weatherly
>> (johnw) is recently posing as "CB" in these forums.
>in the Arlington, Texas area. There was also a bit of banter between
>them when Weatherly hypocritically took "CB" to ask for his unChristian
>behavior.
not.
that someone with Tourette's is misbehaving, or the person with
Cerebral Palsy should "REALLY get control of himself!"
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On 29 Apr 2006 20:41:33 -0700, "Kelly A. Siebecke"
>Let's take a look at the possibility that John Weatherly (johnw) is
>recently posing as "CB" in these forums.
the MENTION of both names (in the archived posts of OTHER posters),
you MIGHT just find that I (john w), have been posting for roughly a
year or two LONGER than CB. You MIGHT POSSIBLY ALSO notice that
neither of us even CLAIMS to be Southern Baptist, though I seem to
recall that CB claims a Southern Baptist BACKGROUND, which I also
claim.
like Jim Agar) rips into virtually every proclaiming Christian in the
group. His one-liners are infamous.
and even FRIENDLY with those who are civil and friendly with me.
nice to YOU as you will allow me to be.
claim to be a "committed, Spirit-filled" "homosexual Christian."
I no longer claim that label. I left the Southern Baptists in my 30s,
IIRC.
I pay CB and his posts little/no attention.
Romans 1.
And you might reply with a passage from the epistles that no one can
OPENLY cheat on their spouse and be born again.
from the same region of the country.
attention, the syndrome known as "being an attention whore."
>he is avoiding their wrath by posing as another person?
>expected - but MY expectation is that they provide some proof that this
>claim is invalid.
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>On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:06:04 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>wrote:
>>protect the public from the sociopaths. Give you a few examples of
>>what I am talking about.
>>Charlie Manson is a sociopath, and a stone-cold blooded killer.
>>Adolph Hitler was a sociopath
>>The mass murderers (Son of Sam, Green River Killer, the Marquis De
>>Sade, this creep they just arrested who murdered an entire FAMILY so
>>he could molest the youngest daughter unimpeded)
>>Phar Lap.
>ANYONE.
>>society.
>Fine -- then be prepared to be held accountable, LIAR LEGION JOHNNIE
>DD WEATHERLESS!
>>(nor do you need to know how)
>enemies!!!!!!
>How many years has it been since your big talk of beating the hell out
>of one while imprisoning another started?
>What have you accomplished?
>How many more enemies have you made with your lies, bragging, and
>senseless threats?
if you will. The angrier you get, the longer the list of ugly names
you call me.
have enough intelligence and reason to CONSIDER my behavior.
>anyone to court, the rest of us would counter and you'd find yourself
>in one sopping, sorry mess.
Agar, Robib, etc., would help you hail a taxi!
else likes it?
>coffee shop.
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:57:48 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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>> almost willing to place wagers that if you dared even TRY taking
>> anyone to court, the rest of us would counter and you'd find yourself
>> in one sopping, sorry mess.
to
>sue was you. Nevertheless, I would be more than willing to testify as to
>your character or rather lackthereof any time.
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On 29 Apr 2006 06:50:36 -0700, "JohnH" <johnhennekes@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 28 Apr 2006 06:29:25 -0700, "JohnH" <johnhennekes@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On 28 Apr 2006 03:12:09 -0700, "JohnH" <johnhennekes@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>> >> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>> >> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent
of
>> >> the author
>> >> >ujb wrote:
>> >> >> JohnH wrote:
>> >> >> > Scout Lady wrote:
>> >> >> >> <NOspam@no.spam> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1l02525sqbkiftofrst3i3l4n3fcskcg3s@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:59:47 -0400, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.org>
wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:26:25 -0400, NOspam@no.spam wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:08:34 -0700, john w <johnw
<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
perceptions
>> >> >> >>>>>>> are as distorted as are Elaine's, if that were possible.
of step
>> >> >> >>>>>> except you, right?
>> >> >> >>>>> Elaine, you are not qualified to detect behavior
"patterns."
>> >> >> >>>> Sweet sweet told of the pattern. Remember Don* also said,
>> >> >> >>>> "watch the pattern".
SEE
>> >> >> >>> 'brother weatherless' being true to his pattern every day!
>> >> >> >> IIRC Don also told us that you follow the pattern of someone
with obsessive
>> >> >> >> compulsive disorder Elaine and many of us see the truth of
that on a daily
>> >> >> >> basis just watching you follow the same pattern over and over
and over.
it comes
>> >> >> > to John Weatherly. I see more than just a few in here who
have also
>> >> >> > developed that pattern. You, on the other hand, have remained
pretty
>> >> >> > even-handed with him, encouraging when appropriate and
rebuking when
>> >> >> > necessary, and I can appreciate that. I would hope that there
will
>> >> >> > come a time when others will also realize that rebuking and
arguing,
>> >> >> > after a certain point, is just plain useless.
starting to act so
>> >> >> stupid it nice you are taking pity and coming to his rescue!
Yes, it's very
>> >> >> praiseworthy how you seeing the retard can't handle the stress
of combat with
>> >> >> two girls try taking some of the pressure off him and on to
yourself. Sweet
>> >> >> sweet hadn't seen johnny starting to lose it so big time with
his infantile
>> >> >> come backs until you made it apparent. I know I'm now ready to
come to his aid
>> >> >> (again) if he'd but acknowledge the truth he's been out gunned
going against
>> >> >> his sweet sweet ujb.
helping him to the
>> >> >> restroom for a change of nappies so to say.
>> >> >offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid
>> >> >them."
Christ,
>> >> >that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh
disorderly,
>> >> >and not after the tradition which he received of us."
but
>> >> >I did see one post of yours in which you professed to be a
believer.
>> >> >Since you obviously feel this way about those unruly, then why
haven't
>> >> >you used Romans 16:17 and 2 Thess. 3:6 as examples to simply avoid
>> >> >troublemakers and to withdraw from the disorderly? On the other
hand,
>> >> >if you use the scriptures that gives us the authority to continue
to
>> >> >rebuke them, then you would still have to reconcile why about 80%
of
>> >> >your rebukes omit compassion and love, but shoots up to about 99%
when
>> >> >it comes to dealing with John Weatherly (and with those who
strongly
>> >> >disagree with your tact.)
OBVIOUSLY
>> >> suffers a SEVERE mental disorder?
>> >because the Bible gives better advice, such as is contained in Romans
>> >16:17 and 2 Thess. 3:6; specifically, to avoid troublemakers and to
>> >withdraw from the disorderly. However, in having to sometimes deal
>> >with difficult people in here, we should still let our words reflect
>> >love and compassion.
>> protect the public from the sociopaths. Give you a few examples of
>> what I am talking about.
>> Charlie Manson is a sociopath, and a stone-cold blooded killer.
>> Adolph Hitler was a sociopath
>> The mass murderers (Son of Sam, Green River Killer, the Marquis De
>> Sade, this creep they just arrested who murdered an entire FAMILY so
>> he could molest the youngest daughter unimpeded)
>> Phar Lap.
>> society.
>> (nor do you need to know how)
it
>> >does not excuse their own hypocrisy. At least I seem to understand
the
>> >concept: "Enough is enough."]
that
>> >> he'd want his commanders to see how he behaves in here (where he is
>> >> certain none of them would THINK of peeking?)
>> >John.
>> the bombing in Oklahoma City (didn't kill anyone, but KNEW what Tim
>> was PLANNING) is serving life, for KNOWING but DOING NOTHING about it.
>> >immature could have ever come out of the military, much less having
>> >even "cut it" in the military. I could be wrong, but I'll stand
behind
>> >my gut-instinct on this one.
>> Elaine Matthews one day SNAP and take 100 people with them, I wonder
>> how you'll feel then.
>mine are grounded in Scripture.
and what it means.
QUITE clear 5 years ago.
>told to avoid troublemakers and to withdraw from the disorderly.
instructions that we are CLEARLY responsible to obey the laws of our
government.
authorities, by both Canadian law AND US law, I am complicit.
"responsible", I will be VERY interested in how YOU are treated
legally when all this comes to a head.
>is not the day to separate the wheat from the tares,
goes on a killing spree, and murders 100 people, YOU would OPPOSE
their arrest, incarceration, and prosecution, since "it is not yet the
time to separate the wheat from the tares."
>the evil and the good, and the rain to fall upon both the just and the
>unjust.
of the solution.
us to occupy.
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>JohnH wrote:
>> ujb wrote:
>>> JohnH wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>> You're the hennekes/hypocrite because you say one should do what you
can't
>>> yourself do! Sweet sweet hasn't given out any counsel not followed.
thread
>> where you were completely blind to Scout Lady's point to Rod that what
>> John does to Elaine is no different than what Elaine does to John. In
>> fact, her point to Rod had also applied to you.
need
>to even contemplating self applying her points.
>> managed to prove here is that you have 20-20 when it comes to seeing
>> the "hypocrite" in others, but totally sightless when it comes to
>> seeing your own hypocrisy.
>> better than mine.
>resident busybody who keeps pointing it out in others, I only followed
your
>thread with the best answers to your questions.
JohnH, do you, "Sweet sweet?"
to yourself in the 3rd person (a symptom of schizophrenia, by the
way).
side to.)
that
>>>>> he'd want his commanders to see how he behaves in here (where he is
>>>>> certain none of them would THINK of peeking?)
pretense.
>> crappola.
>>>> immature could have ever come out of the military, much less having
>>>> even "cut it" in the military. I could be wrong, but I'll stand
behind
>>>> my gut-instinct on this one.
>>> ;) just,
>>> ps how's the dustin' coming big boy?
descriptive nick
>names yet you do so yourself! Correct ujb if I wrong, but isn't that
hypocrisy?
>Doesn't that make you the hypocrite?
matters
>you might wish to check with her? Even the 'scrambled one' seems to be
more
>discerning, and he is handicapped.
>ujb
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>On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:12:25 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>wrote:
>>PATHOLOGICAL misbehavior.
YOU have said, I am totally within my rights to say that my HONEST
OPINION Of you is that you are absolutely PSYCHOTIC).
you.
training than YOU have!
>>and your ongoing OPEN ridicule (as if that would bother me; tsk tsk)
above), and that I need a PROPER assessment (like you did above), that
is called "libel.'
name to my quote, "plagiarism". In other words, you are a THIEF.
Nor is "Psychotic" a diagnosis.
hundred times, your license will be pulled so fast your head will
rotate 50 times.
assessment", yet YOU refuse to get one AT ALL!
(You're afraid that if you went in for an assessment, they'd keep you)
Nor is "Psychotic" a diagnosis.
hundred times, your license will be pulled so fast your head will
rotate 50 times.
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> at 09:49 PM, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> said:
you
>>> do, that don't. Your claimed bi-polar, doesn't fit your conduct here.
As
>>> to the sexual abuse claim, I give it the same credit I gave your
claim to
>>> having gotten laid at the age of four. But when you finally tried to
>>> defend your story, you acted as if it was a rape by an older woman,
what
>>> was she again, 5?
sordid.
>claim, & the rest of the story was just a typical jw attempt to glorify
>himself.
>recall, its various outright lies.
name. And then you can ask HER if it happened. I will give you her
FIRST name. It was "Carol." Her initials were "CAR".
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>wrote:
>>protect the public from the sociopaths. Give you a few examples of
>>what I am talking about.
>>Charlie Manson is a sociopath, and a stone-cold blooded killer.
>>Adolph Hitler was a sociopath
>>The mass murderers (Son of Sam, Green River Killer, the Marquis De
>>Sade, this creep they just arrested who murdered an entire FAMILY so
>>he could molest the youngest daughter unimpeded)
>>Phar Lap.
>ANYONE.
>>society.
>Fine -- then be prepared to be held accountable,
off.
you're now stomping your feet like a 5-year old!
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>On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:54:39 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:20:58 -0400, NOspam@no.spam wrote:
>>>On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:20:56 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>>>wrote:
>>>>forced into it.)
>>perceived as "idle threats?"
know it all!
downfall YET.
your actions already!
>past me.
>liar-johnnie you were named, and rightly so.
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Subject: Re: A prayer for both John W's
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>wrote:
wrote:
(Balios)
>>> wrote:
>>> >In Jesus name
>>> Those two individuals are strange, yes- but to make a mocking
>>> 'prayer' and then sign 'In Jesus name' -- you are only asking for
>>> trouble.
>>> prayer, especially when you're an atheist, is quite another. I
>>> politely request you refrain, please.
believe YOu have.
about it.
indicates that you are
2. a masochist.
>Do you really think God would approve of such a 'prayer and grant your
>request?
-
>>Surely is is time you all got rid of the dour and lightened up. God
gave
>>us laughter for good reason.
>'humor' in your 'prayer.
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:26:51 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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>news:hcm2529tvddpfetil5udn2bsr367h0b3oi@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:23:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
>> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:59:48 -0400, NOspam@no.spam wrote:
>>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>>>the author
>>>>On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:46:20 +1000, PoseiodonsGift@Illiad.com
(Balios)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>In Jesus name
>>>> Those two individuals are strange, yes- but to make a mocking
>>>>'prayer' and then sign 'In Jesus name' -- you are only asking for
>>>>trouble.
>>>>prayer, especially when you're an atheist, is quite another. I
>>>>politely request you refrain, please.
>>>BJ and me "strange" without acknowledging her own "strangeness" is ...
>>>certainly strange, but we are ALL strange in our own way."
>> because of your own consistently abrasive behavior, and constant lies.
>> be a minus v1200 - you're lower than low.... LIAR JOHNNIE.
be
>unknown and considered as nothing. Truly to know and despise self is the
>best and most perfect counsel. To think of oneself as nothing, and
always to
>think well and highly of others is the best and most perfect wisdom.
>Wherefore, if you see another sin openly or commit a serious crime, do
not
>consider yourself better, for you do not know how long you can remain in
>good estate. All men are frail, but you must admit that none is more
frail
>than yourself.
>---Imitation of Christ, book 1 chapter 2
YOURSELF, Cathy?
consider YOURSELF above reproach!
to myself FIRST.
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:35:26 GMT, "Joe Tucker" <jtucker46@hotmail.com>
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>penned those words (about 60-61 C.E.), there was but one Christian
faith.
>Yet, today we see a profusion of denominations, sects, and cults that
claim
>to be Christian, though they teach conflicting doctrines and hold to
>different standards of conduct. What a far cry from the one united
Christian
>congregation that started on Pentecost 33 C.E.! How did these divisions
come
>about? For the answer, we must go back to the first century of our
Common
>Era.
where Paul ACKNOWLEDGED sincere differences, and said, essentially,
"let each of you be convinced of his point of view, and let's all be
at peace with one another."
another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully
convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does
so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives
thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives
thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us
dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we
die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the
Lord.
Saturday. Paul said that this should not be an issue to argue over.
prefer to worship on Saturday.
drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration
or a Sabbath day.
read the Bible with ANY perception), of half-a-dozen different
"denominations", all peacefully co-existing.
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you
>> do, that don't. Your claimed bi-polar, doesn't fit your conduct here.
As
>> to the sexual abuse claim, I give it the same credit I gave your claim
to
>> having gotten laid at the age of four. But when you finally tried to
>> defend your story, you acted as if it was a rape by an older woman,
what
>> was she again, 5?
discredit me (yet again), facts have been HORRIBLY garbled.
approximate age (me 4 / her 5; me 5 /her 4) is one thing, and it's
innocent.
completely different matter, and I don't see anything funny about it.
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>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:56:03 GMT, "Alan" <Me@here.com> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
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>> the author
>>>news:4be2umF1113k7U1@individual.net...
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>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:07:48 -0500, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
>>>>> <Xeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:
think
>>>>> you are referring to me, John Weatherly.
legitimate
>>>request.