Starve.Org White Noise Usenet Archive: "Re: Poll: Americans More Ashamed Than Proud of Clinton Presidency"

"D.G. Porter" wrote:
>
> Linus F. Zimmerman countered some more of D.G.'s loony bullshit twaddle:
> >
> > Baloney, National Health Care in England and Canada is a costly
> > disaster.
>
> I see no groundswell of support in England or Canada to get rid of their
> system.

Check Spokane Washington and see how many hospitals they have for
the size of the city.........They are seeing thousands of
Canadians is why.

Do you EVER talk to any Brits or Canadians? I do. They can
bitch for hours about the failures of their systems. It's
obvious (as usual) you do not have a clue.

> > Ask our landlady, she just returned from Canada
> > yesterday. Her surgery was canceled twice because the surgical
> > equipment was repossessed. The government couldn't make the
> > payments.
>
> I think you're lying.

It's a fact. Her husband took her to Edmonton at the end of
October for removal of a kidney. Her surgery was scheduled for 8
Nov, then 18 Nov, then 26 Nov, finally in late December. The
equipment was repossessed in early Nov but there were
negotiations to get it returned. When it was returned it was
heavily booked and she was on standby. She finally had it done
and returned here.

> This sounds like one of the lies Reagan used to tell.
> I don't believe you.
> Was this life-threatening-situation surgery or something cosmetic?
> I challenge you to document this assertion.
> Anyone here from Canada or the UK?

Surgery was for removal of a kidney that had not completely
developed since childhood and had become cancerous. Portions of
the ducts were removed in August. Her doctors thought it was
safe to leave but further tests indicated cancer where the duct
entered the bladder and necessitated removal.

If you want to put some serious money down first, windbag, I'll
ask her if she wants to give names, places and dates.

>
> > Social Security is a pyramid scheme, doomed to eventual collapse
> > and anyone with a brain cell figured that out in their 20s.
>
> What a nitwit. So when can we expect you to redfuse your SS checks?

I paid in since 1950, why shouldn't I collect? It wasn't
voluntary you know. Had I been allowed to buy land instead I
would have been a millionaire with the proceeds. Nitwit.

>
> > Medicare was another scheme designed to buy votes. Like Social
> > Security it fleeces Peter to pay Paul.
>
> Then send your SS checks back like my grandma did.

Your grandma probably never paid in a dime and was just leeching
off someone elses' earnings.

>
> > Medicaid is medical welfare, period.
>
> Isn't it awful, Gertie? Scold some more, you old lady.

No rebuttal, huh windbag?
>
> > All these programs are designed for people who were led to
> > believe they never had to provide for their futures because uncle
> > would take care of them. Those who prefer to provide for their
> > own futures are forced to contribute to those who won't. It's
> > the Little Red Hen story all over again.
>
> "I'm a little egg in an egg carton. I don't want to touch any other
> eggs and I want no egg touching me. I have nothing in common with all
> these other eggs. Oops, it's omelet time."
> Or:
> "I DON'T NEED NO HELP FROM NOBODY NOHOW AT NO TIME! I RUGGED
> INDERVIDJIALIST! ME GO NOW LIVE IN SHACK IN MONTANA!"
>
You might see a wild fieldmouse, stain your diapers and run home
to Mom.

> > Jolly good. I use a lot of prescriptions. I thought I had
> > provided for my future needs but the government double-crossed
> > military retirees and reneged on their promises.
>
> "The government"? You mean, the REPUBLICANS in government that want to
> cut taxes and still buy more gadgets that don't work. Show me the
> Republicans who want to expand your Veterans medical coverage. There
> are none, becaue you are no longer in the service, meaning you are a
> civilian, and more health coverage for you is SOCIALISTIC.

It's the Democreeps who whack away at the military retiree
budget. It was Bubba who cut our COLA for 36 months so he could
spend more on the welfare vote.

>
> > Tolerance does not enter into it. Open gays are a detriment to
> > good order and discipline. I know this for a fact from 21 years
> > of military experience.
>
> 'Splains a lot.
> Hey, how about an openly gay regiment in each branch of the military?
> Ooooo, I bet they'd be VERY disciplined!!
>
> > The government hasn't even given this to military retirees who
> > were promised lifetime medical care and now find themselves in a
> > cheapskate HMO run by the lowest bidder or else on Medicare. Get
> > educated, fool!
>
> Do you see any Republicans supporting an expansion of your Veterans'
> medical coverage? I sure don't.

Sure, there are a lot of sponsors for a Veteran's promises bill.

>
> > For a change? The Democrats have to use scare tactics and lies
>
> And Republicans never lie or scare people. Right. M-hm. "I have in my
> hand a list of communists in the State Department." "It takes three
> dollars of tax money to provide for one dollar in government health
> care." "There are more trees in America now that when the Pilgrims
> landed." "I am not a crook." "But worse than any of these drugs is the
> Menace of Marijuana." "I have a secret plan to end the war." "There
> you go again."
>
> > to win the senior vote. They can't do it on truth. I'm 66 and
>
> ...a real GEEZER.
>
> > none of my friends would vote for a Democrat.
>
> None of your friends are my friends, for which I'm very thankful. Bunch
> of old farts...

You are coasting on the sacrifices of all these old geezers.
Leech.

>
> > You're nothing but a poorly informed robot and lickspittle. A
> > sheeple of the worst sort, full of class envy and greed. Your
> > utopia was the USSR but it failed.
> > LZ
>
> Whenever one of these loons brings up "class envy" or "class warfare,"
> it's really a dodge to keep you from realizing that they are in complete
> support of the class warfare we already have and is rampant through our
> society. It exists, but they are scared to death that once we talk
> anbout it everyone will catch on how they are being screwed by the
> wealthiest 2% of the country.
> What gets me is that nitwits like this clown shill for the wealthiest
> yet never get paid for it. Those at the top can HIRE spinmeisters but
> these clowns are willing to do it for free.

I don't spend my time worrying about the 2% at the top. Why
should I?

It's only the greedy and lazy who look at other people's gains
with envy. You sound like a vodka soaked peasant in old Russia
who envied the Kulak his house and grain bin. So he killed the
Kulak and took his goods and then became 3 times as crooked and
greedy as the Kulak had ever been. You are just pissed you are
not one of the 2% and never will be.
LZ