Starve.Org White Noise Usenet Archive: "Re: OT - Wake up, your life is passing you by and your too..."

> Maybe they haven't buried Rick, (they don't need to, he's doing a good
> job on his own), but IMO, they're doing a pretty good job of dragging
> the whole newsgroup down.

People tend to get mad when they are constantly lied about and Rick
Faust has the right to be upset with Cliff "stalker" Fiddledick and
GaryR / Gary / The King Of All Used Tampons because if their
constant lies about him as well as both of these assholes outright
refusal to be measured by any type of meaningful standard. When
Rick attempts to measure these two they just change the game.
AFAIC it's a totally transparent game played by two sick little
boys with nothing better to do or to offer.

> Cliff actually contributes to the newsgroup which gives him some
> credibility. GaryR is a useless piece of shit without a shred of it
> because he contributes next to nothing useful.

Cliff has a lot more knowledge about machining practices than
GaryR / Gary / The King Of All Used Tampons. What Cliff does
not have, as is frequently shown by Dobe Dave, Bill Roberto and
many, many others is much practical machining knowledge. Cliff also
has little or no knowledge of modern CAD/CAM practices and is
frequently wrong on much of the stuff he posts. That Cliff lies
and plays endless games does not help his case. Cliff simply
thinks he knows everything and his huge ego often burns him.
Even on the non-dated stuff, Cliff often gets it wrong
because Cliff thinks he's too good for something like manual
(automatic) screw machine work. This type of attitude is very,
very dangerous toward learning and Cliff has failed this
test very badly.

I'm still laughing my ass off at Cliff's attempts to correct Bill Roberto's
25 years of machine shop experience with a quote from some
engineering book. I bet Dobe Dave will *still* be laughing his ass
off a year from now with Cliff's insistence on used toilet water being the
way to go and I frequently laugh my ass off on how little Cliff knows
about what a small job shop or a innovative designer truly needs....
he's so badly out of touch it's a joke.

> There are also other reasons (e.g. Connie, etc) for your animosity
> towards Bottlebob, which are prefectly valid from your point of view.

Bottlebob is totally incapable of seeing how he got used by Connie
and would do the same thing all over again. All she would have to do
is use him again which is something Connie is very adept at. I now ignore
the majority of what Bottlebob posts with the exception of something I
don't think will be controversial because this is someone who I think has
made bad decisions that have effected how he is able to process
information in a rational manner. What is interesting for me to note is that
Bottlebob assessments of me don't even remotely come close to matching
the assessments of those that we are both friends with and in my mind
that says a lot. :>) I'm best off having as little contact with Bottlebob as
possible and making my points. I'm not even remotely tempted to play
his Dr. Battleboob games anymore and I know from experience of
being burned by hime that the Bad Doctor will always try and bring
any conversation I have with him back to his usual total bullshit mind
games. I see no reason to play these games on issues he has been
proven wrong on and that he refuses to accept, such as Gibbs
modifying their software to the extent that it now go against the total
bullshit and misinformation that Dr. Battleboob preached in this
newsgroup for years.... for me it simply does not get any better than
that. ;>)

Additionally one of our mutual acquaintances tells it like it is on a
constant basis in regards to the software that both he and Bottlebob
use.... Gibbs.

Don't even feel I need to mention Gibbs anymore. :>)

> To get off the beaten path here for a moment... sometime during '99 I
> got a Think3 demo and installed it on an WindowsNT 4 system. During
> the week prior to that I went through great pains to successfully
> eradicate every last piece of Internet Explorer from that system. (yes,
> it's doable on a machine that's not running Active Desktop) After the
> Think3 installation, what did I see on my desktop? An Internet Explorer
> icon. And it worked. I was mother fucking LIVID, hence the reason I
> looked at the software for five minutes, uninstalled it, then filed the
> cd's in a garbage bucket. Didn't even play the game. What is it? "The
> Monkey Wrench Conspiracy" or something? I hear it's pretty cool.

Many developers like using Internet Exploder for their HTML help
files. Paul Elliot has said as much in this newsgroup in regards to
MetaCutView now MetaCut Utilities. To use their HTML help you
MUST have Internet Exploder. Needless to say a better alternative
should exist and developers should take it if they want to use HTML
help.

"The Monkey Wrench Conspiracy" was and may still be away that
think3 devised to teach someone think3 in a game like atmosphere to
make learning fun. This is they typical new idea that someone like
Cliff "stalker" Fiddledick rejects outright without knowing a god
damn thing about it.

There are a lot of limitations to designing with NURBS and you
NEVER, EVER hear Fiddledick say a damn thing about this
because he does not understand creative design. Global Shape
Modeling is totally lost on Cliff because he rejects it because
he never used it in his past and can't even relate to the concept.

Separate the technology of Global Shape Modeling from think3
and read this white paper if you have not already. It does a good
job of explaining the limitations of surface modeling as well as
solid modeling.

http://www.think3.co.jp/docs_shared/Global_Shape_Modeling_White_Paper...

In 2003 think3 is going to introduce new ways of modeling that
are not solely based on NURBS even if NURBS end up as the
final product. This will make things one hell of a lot easier than a
pure NURBS only approach. These kinds of technologies will
eventually be found in other products because they are badly
needed. Of interest to me is how closely think3 and DelCAM
seem to think in regards to what is needed. For sure one thing
that this does is nullify Cliff's pathetic attempts to do everything
he can to knock think3's awesome technology.

IOW, Seamless, unified and hybrid is only the foundation with
the best yet to come. We have a long road ahead based on
how slowly things find their way into SolidWorks, Inventor,
SolidEdge, Rhino, etc.

> I, for one, am sick and tired of the religious banter on this newsgroup,
> and I'm not alone.

What banter ???? It's pretty much been ALL one sided and will continue
to be because of the hatred and contempt that Cliff "stalker" Fiddledick
and GaryR / Gary / The King Of All Used Tampons show towards those
who believe in God or a higher power. Most people don't want to deal with
these two's hatred and contempt.

jon

"Black Dragon" <oyxqenta@ebnqentr.zlvc.bet> wrote in message

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> jon_banquer wrote:

> >> The more Rick retaliates, the worse it's going to get.

> > Actually, I think it's the right thing to do... up to a point.

> For me, that point has been crossed. I can only take childish stupidity
> from supposed adults for so long.

> > These two fucking scumbags have done everything
> > possible to bury Rick six feet under with ZERO success and
> > I do mean ZERO.

> Maybe they haven't buried Rick, (they don't need to, he's doing a good
> job on his own), but IMO, they're doing a pretty good job of dragging
> the whole newsgroup down.

> > I would venture a guess that almost everyone is totally turned off
> > by Cliff "stalker" Fiddledick and GaryR / Gary / The King
> > Of All Used Tampons tactics. I would say both have done
> > a lot more damage to their own credibility than to Rick's.

> Cliff actually contributes to the newsgroup which gives him some
> credibility. GaryR is a useless piece of shit without a shred of it
> because he contributes next to nothing useful.

> > Yes I do feel Dr. Battleboob has a good deal of responsibility in this.
> > To me it seems like Dr. Battleboob is having a tougher and tougher time
> > living with the results of some of his favorite newsgroup alliances and
> > this does make me very happy. Sort of like payback time for the bad
> > Doctor. In the old days the Bad Doctor tried to lay the line on me that
> > I was the reason for Cliff's massive OCD / hate problem.

> > We now have a far different picture today than the Bad Doctors usual /
> > typical / guaranteed miss diagnosis. Perhaps the Bad Doctor should
> > consider getting the fuck out of the amateur shrink business cause he
> > totally sucks at it.

> There are also other reasons (e.g. Connie, etc) for your animosity
> towards Bottlebob, which are prefectly valid from your point of view.
> But NONE of that makes him responsible for other peoples actions.

> Period.

> > think3, think3, think3

> Anyway, I don't care how good Think3 may or may not be, the rotten
> bastards burned me once, and they're NEVER going to get the opportunity
> to try to do it again.

> Maybe they haven't buried Rick, (they don't need to, he's doing a good