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From: "whisky-dave" <whisky-dave@final.front.ear> Subject: Re: now who votes on the law Date: 26 Jun 2006 Newsgroups: uk.people.gothic,alt.gothic

"H Duffy" <hester_du...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4fteogF1klsp2U4@individual.net... > > "Zotz" <z...@zotz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:pan.2006.06.21.17.12.29.510129@zotz.demon.co.uk... >> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:05:34 +0100, whisky-dave wrote: >>> I don't see your point here. Wives don't necessarily share anything. >> Many polygynous societies don't really allow women to own property. >> Not uncommonly in polygynous Mormon families the wives have separate >> areas >> of a house and overlap comparatively little. In British cases of bigamy, >> often the different spouses don't even know of eachothers' existence. >> Or there may be a great deal of sharing - but then you get people sharing >> quarters without being married or in any similar relationship. Sharing >> isn't really relevant. > > Apparently in some Muslim cultures, it is considered bad form to allow > one's wives to meet; in general, a man will have one wife in one town or > city, and a second in another, and so on. And if he can't afford to buy a > different house, ina different town, for each wife, he shouldn't be > marrying them in the first place. Well at least that makes sense in that culture marriage IS different. In wonder (man having 7 wives) in such a situation whether or not one of the wives would have grounds for an anulment due to unreasonable behavour i.e him only being around for 1 in 7 days. >>> Which ones. What about the ones that say there were 3 wise men in the >>> Bible are they goos sources ? >> >> There are modern dictionaries that say that? > > There are modern dictionaries which say that tradition has it that there > were three of them. I suspect that that's too subtle for Dave though. So subtle that in fact it doesn't say it, now that is as subtle as it says Hester is WRONG. It's here someone just below where it says that the three wise men are a tradition. ___________________ From the OED Magi 1. Chiefly with capital initial. the (three) Magi: the three 'wise men' (see WISE MAN n. 3) or astrologers who came from the East, bearing gifts to the infant Jesus (Matthew 2:1-12); a representation of these. [OE Harley Gloss. 155 Eoi magi, easterne tungelwitegan.] ?c1200 Ormulum 7073 Maew..se att ta Kalldissken kingess..Wærenn Magy ehatenn. c1400 (c1378) LANGLAND Piers Plowman (Laud) B. XIX. 81 Wyse men at tyme Maistres & lettred men Magy [c1400 C text Magi] hem called. 1598 T. ROGERS Celestiall Elegies sig. C7, Of the Starre which the Magi did worship at Christes Natiuitie, and of his death. 1652 J. GAULE - 13 The Magi, that came to Christ. 1656 T. BLOUNT Glossographia s.v. Balthasar, One of the Magi, or wise-men, vulgarly called the three Kings of Collein. 1756-7 tr. J. G. Keyssler Trav. (1760) I. 405 A golden medal, said to be among the offerings of the eastern magi to Jesus Christ. 1839 Penny Cycl. XIV. 281 Whence the wise men of the East who came to see Christ are called simply Magi. 1884 Altar Hymnal 16 Lo! star-led chieftains, Magi, Christ adoring, Mystic gifts offer Him, incense, gold, and myrrh. 1927 T. S. ELIOT (title) The journey of the Magi. 1990 Chicago Sun-Times 30 Nov. I. 30 (caption) Carlson..says the Magi were witness to an unusual celestial event over Bethlehem. 2. a. A member of an ancient Persian priestly caste which became influential in the development of Zoroastrianism. Hence: a person skilled in eastern magic and astrology; a magician or sorcerer. Originally members of a Median tribe or clan with responsibility for cultic ritual, the magi assumed an important official position with the unification of the Persian Empire in the sixth cent. B.C., adopting and adapting the spreading religion of Zoroastrianism. It is probable that during the Achaemenid period the magi became involved (in Babylon, a major administrative centre) in the magical practices and beliefs subsequently named after them, and in astrology. [a1450 (?c1400) Three Kings Cologne (Royal) 49 Seynt Austyn sei at is word Magi in e tung of Chaldee is a moche to seye as a Philosophre. c1450 (c1380) CHAUCER House of Fame 1274 Ther saugh I Hermes Ballenus, Limote, and eke Symon Magus.] 1555 W. WATERMAN tr. J. Boemus Fardle of Facions II. vii. Kivb, [In Persia] their Magi (that is to say men skylfull in ye secretes of nature). 1572 R. HARRISON tr. Lavaterus Of Ghostes III. i. 179 Pharao..gave himself to be ruled by his Magi or wyse men. 1609 P. HOLLAND tr. A. Marcellinus Rom. Hist. XXIII. vi. 231 In these tracts lye the fertile fields of the Magi. 1614 J. SYLVESTER Bethulia's Rescue v. 301 You Parthians, Cossians, and Arabians too, By your sad Magi's deep prophetlike Charms Sacredly counsell'd. 1621 F. QUARLES Hadassa sig. B3, Tyrant Cambyses being dead, and gone,..Mounts vp a Magus, with dissembled right. 1638 T. HERBERT Some Yeares Trav. (rev. ed.) 214 Let me rather busie my brains in quest of what a Magus was..under which Title, many Witches, Sorcerers..and other Diaboliques have cloakt their trumperies. 1715 POPE Temple of Fame 14 There in long Robes the Royal Magi stand, Grave Zoroaster waves the circling Wand. 1742 POPE New Dunciad 508 Thy Magus, Goddess! shall perform the rest. 1805 H. K. WHITE Let. 10 Nov. in Remains (1807) I. 189, I have as much expectation of gaining it, as of being elected supreme magus over the mysteries of Mithra. 1820 SHELLEY Prometheus Unbound I. i. 28 The Magus Zoroaster. 1864 E. B. PUSEY Daniel vii. 418 Among the Persians, those who are wise as to the Deity, and are its ministers, are called Magi. 1948 E. M. BUTLER Myth of Magus I. i. 15 Used by the Greek however, magia signified originally the religion, learning and occult practices of the Eastern magi. 1973 Times 2 Aug. 8/5 No decision on whether Crowley was a con man or a magus. 1981 N. G. L. HAMMOND Alexander the Great 268 His readiness to turn to Greek and non-Greek gods alike for help is shown by his consulting not only Greek seers but also those of Egypt, Persia (the Magi), and Babylon (the Chaldaeans). b. Any of the pagan magicians and sorcerers supposed to have opposed the Christian missions of St Patrick and St Columba. Cf. DRUID n. 1. 1822 J. LANIGAN Eccl. Hist. Irel. I. 224 Leogaire..set out..with a considerable number of followers and one or two of the principal Magi. 1845 G. PETRIE Round Towers Irel. II. ii. 132 Quoted as the composition of a certain magus of the name of Con, in the ancient Life of St. Patrick. 1887 D. O. HUNTER BLAIR tr. A. Bellesheim Hist. Cath. Ch. of Scotl. I. 72 Thereupon the Magi, or Druadh, bitterly reproached the parents for their adoption of Christianity. 1887 D. O. HUNTER BLAIR tr. A. Bellesheim Hist. Cath. Ch. of Scotl. I. 73 Broichan, the Magus of King Brude. 1909 Amer. Hist. Rev. 15 34 The Latin hagiology is not explicit as to any contact between missionaries and druids: the magi spoken of were not necessarily even druids. 1943 Speculum 18 270 A similar anecdote is told there..of a 'magus' (druid of course) called Lochu, who flies on high and crashes because of the prayers of Patrick. 3. gen. A person regarded as having great wisdom or powers likened to those of a magician. 1700 J. TUTCHIN Foreigners 8 Where are the Antient Sages of Renown? No Magi left, fit to advise the Crown? 1851 T. CARLYLE Life J. Sterling (1872) II. ii. 94 His Father,..the magus of the Times, had talk and argument ever ready. 1983 P. ACKROYD Last Test. Oscar Wilde 125, I was the magus who had provided the words to unlock the mystery of his soul.

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