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From: diva@interlog.com (Sabine van den Bergh) Subject: GH: Jeff Bashing (was: "BOOBIE not bobbie!") Date: 1995 Apr 2 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc

jefflind@netcom.com (Jeff Lindstrom) wrote: >Jean E. Mulrenan <JMulrena@vma.cc.nd.edu> wrote: >>jefflind@netcom.com (Jeff Lindstrom) wrote: >>> 1) Her breasts have been enhanced >>> 2) She used to be a prostitute, so many women here refuse to like her. >>Please enlighten us as to who these women are that refuse to like Boobie >>because she was a prostitute. > I wish I could, but I didn't keep a record of all the criticisms of >Bobbie which mentioned her former career as a prostitute. > There are enough posts from women who dislike Bobbie for more current >reasons, that I am not going to spend a lot of energy defending a post for >which I don't already have the information. <deep breath...> ok... i don't think there's *anyone* on ratsa who doesn't know i hate boobie, but guys, i have to agree with jeff on this point. i _assume_ that in this reply, he wasn't referring to those of us who simply mention that she was once a hooker, but to the few who have put her down *BECAUSE* she was once a hooker. only a *few* people have expressed this point of view, but jeff wasn't the only one who's noticed the posts- i have, too. to clarify: i DON'T agree that "many women here" dislike her for this reason. but there *have* been a small number of people who've stated the character's former profession as why they disliked her, or who have said things to the effect of "how can you expect an ex-hooker to know how to be faithful", "once a whore, always a whore", etc. i haven't seen MANY posts like this, but i *have* seen some. BTW- of the relevant posts, i recall at least 2 that weren't from women, but from *men*. the vast majority of people here *don't* rag on boobie for having been a pro, or if we do mention it, it's done with *humour*. hey, we've got plenty of great reasons to hate her without bashing a loong ago career choice that boobie, for whatever reason, had to/chose to make. but i *have* seen a few posts in which people were slamming the boobstress simply *because* she'd been a prostitute, and they weren't being funny. i find that very disturbing, even if i only see a post of that nature on rare occasions. on a related note ...and lord, i *REALLY* didn't want to get involved in this, but... IM(Rarely)HO, jeff is taking an inordinate amount of crap from a few people here. it's one thing to flame someone, but don't you think that some people have crossed *way* over the generally accepted usenet/2004/usenet boundries with him (and jean, i'm not referring to this post, but to several threads i've seen this year)??? and rats_, in particular, is *usually* a very friendly group. you may like jeff, or you might not -that's just fine. and you may or may not like the *way he says things* -that's just fine, too. but would some of you *really* flame anyone else in the same way that you flame him? as an example: if *i* -a regular poster here (and one not only *with* a uterus, but with, until a few years ago, *two* of them;)- had said that people don't like bobbie because of her past, what would the response have been? most likely, people would have disagreed with me, right? but would they have *skewered* me? no, i really doubt they would have. i've posted my share of unpopular opinions here, and i've been disagreed with, but i've never been flamed (although i suspect that might change today...;). when people disagree here, we usually *discuss* things. but if "the jeff character" (which is a pretty rude thing to call *anyone*, don't you think?) expresses an unpopular sentiment -or even *phrases* something in a way some people don't like- it's time to bring out the net.marshmallows, cuz a net.bonfire is never far away. jeff may have earned a few flames over the last several months. but if he weren't related to such a well loved GH actor (or, arguably, even if he was the *sister* of the same actor), would we REALLY give him so much shit??? i know he can defend himself just fine, but i don't like it that he's been singled out because of 'who he is' (or 'who we think he should be as jon's brother'. we don't even *know jon*, we only know the characters he plays on television, and his public persona). many would disagree with jeff on certain points, no matter *who* he was related to, but i sincerely doubt we'd be treating him with the disrespect that some here have done. just my thoughts for the day. i'm sure they won't win me any popularity contests. that's ok :) "...once again, that email address is diva@interlog.com." sabine/minty/diva (CEO, MHGC Boobie)

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