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From: NoSpam (nospam@nospam.com) Subject: Re: Mind control the greatest conspiracy theory ever! Date: 20 May 2004 Newsgroups: aus.politics

On 19 May 2004 07:15:51 -0700, socialiststeve@yahoo.co.uk (Steve Wallis) wrote: One at least is not a conspiracy theory. Mind control. Unfortunately this is very much misunderstood and peole in general have absolutely no idea of what mind control is or propaganda for that matter. They have visions of bright lights, drugs and deprivation. Yes they can work in the short term. What is more important is the examples of the world are never mentioned. Lets look at alcohol prohibition in the USA. Few indeed ever correctly refer to this as a propaganda campaign yet it was nothing but a propaganda campaign. The answer of can people be made to do things against their nature is answered because once the campaign had achieved its objectives then and only then was progress made against the propaganda. 33 years it took before most of the prohibition laws which created the organised criminal empire of the US were abolished. Not because people wanted to drink openly and not break the law but because of the crime wave created. Adolph Hitler did not hold a gun to the German peoples heads and say kill the Jews. The Germans willingly pointed them out, gave them no shelter and loaded them onto the cattle trucks. If you told any German what was going to happen you would not have been believed. No amount of reasoning would have been of any use. You could have shown them pictures. Mind control? Every mass killing by a government has been proceeded by a massive propaganda campaign. Give an example of one that does not conform? The worlds largest propaganda campaign is gun control. Lets start with two irrefutable facts. 1)There is no known causal link between levels of firearm ownership and crime. 2)There is no known successful implementation of gun control laws that have reduced either crime or the supply of guns to criminals. Read from any gun control statement, research, opinion, suggestion and apply 1 and/or 2. All make the assumption that you the reader know that there is an causal link and believe that what they propose will work to reduce crime or the supply of guns to criminals. Can anyone deny the existence of gun control. Can the use of propaganda by gun control organisations be denied. Can anyone show that gun control works as promised? Why do people believe that gun control can work as promised? Mind control? Conspiracy may attribute this gun control propaganda campaign to one world government. That is for you to decide and the easy way is to look at the funders of such organisations that promote gun control. Why does one name keep cropping up - George Sorros or the Open Society Foundation? The UN gun control campaign funding is far more secret. Are the media unaware of their part in propaganda campaigns? >I have known that mind control works, to some extent, >ever since I was hypnotised by a stage hypnotist about >17 years ago. My recent experiences in psychiatric >wards have reinforced that view, especially as many >people, including those who are otherwise very >rational and could be very effective at fighting back >against the capitalist system that oppresses us, say >that they are hearing voices. In the programme, there >was somebody from a group called Christians Against >Mental Slavery, who had heard voices and received >suspicious phone calls at 4 in the morning including >one advising her to leave the country because it would >not be safe to stay. I put some of my evidence for >mind control in the most recent version of my >"Socialism and Conspiracies" document (version 5; >version 4 is the latest on my website): Huh! all you have to do is go into the streets and ask peoples opinion on a particular subject. Ask if it is their own thoughts or what they have learnt from the media. If their own ask what is the basis of these thoughts and beliefs. When you hear no reasoning only slogans and assertions that can be traced back to a propaganda organisation is this mind control? [snip] >There are various hypothetical techniques of mind >control: among them > >* the use of drugs, such as "truth serum", to induce a >more relaxed state of mind; A common belief that it takes some tangible form. Watching TV, listening to the radio or reading a newspaper would be considered far to radical a concept or to terrible to even think of. Yet once an idea/thought/concept/response is instilled in sufficient peoples minds these will automatically become biased in favour of the propaganda. A one sided argument is the truth. >* hypnosis, where an individual is put into a >trance-like state usually in order to recover >memories; > >* Pavlovian conditioning, named after experiments >carried out by the Russian psychologist Ivan Pavlov in >the early 20th Century, where he described how we are >"conditioned" into certain types of behaviour; and > >* indoctrination, where an authoritative body uses >propaganda or the threat of force to shape >individuals' minds and belief systems. Propaganda is far more complex than this simplistic statement. Propaganda appeals to an emotional response. There are many ploys to make the message more believable. When gun control says "guns kill" this is an obvious fallacy since a gun is an inanimate object. Yet how many now believe that guns kill, why? What happened to their powers of reasoning? Indoctrination seeks to circumvent reasoning by appealing to an emotional response. Jane was innocently walking home one night when she was brutally raped and killed by a gunman. If it were not for her attacker having a gun she would be alive today. Gun owners are but a trigger pull away from killing innocent lives. This country is awash with guns and if we don't do something about it now the culture of violence will overtake all of us. Banning guns will make us all safe and our children can play without fear of being shot. Is so full of holes I am not going to pick them out. But they are examples of appeals to an emotional response typical of gun control propaganda. Studies have shown... Appeal to authority 180 organisations have signed and agree with the gun control charter... Band wagoning There are many more propaganda techniques including outright lies, can you spot them. Does advertising sell? Why? Does advertising ensure you will by the best product? Why did you buy it? Reasoning? >Yet among sociologists and psychologists mind control >is a bitterly contested theory. Idiots can't even learn from history. Why does every country have a propaganda department? >Some do not believe the human mind can ever fully be >controlled by outside forces. While they accept that >individuals can be made to behave in a certain way >under duress or threat of force ("What wouldn't you do >with a gun pressed to your head?" asked one recent >article on the subject of mind control), they doubt >that individuals can be manipulated against their will >by sexy advertising, hypnotists or even cult leaders. What do they think caused the US to pass the alcohol prohibition laws. What do they think caused the Germans to turn against there friends and neighbours? What do they think caused the massacre of so many ethnic groups like Rwanda? >Massimo Introvigne, founder of the Center for Studies >on New Religions, believes that mind control theorists >leave out one important thing - free will, our ability >to think for ourselves even under extreme >circumstances. Har! har! har! The number of people who can think for themselves is few indeed. What good fortune for governments that people do not think - Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf. But Adolph would not have known because he was not a learned fool. Yep he had something to say about the academics as well, look it up. >Discredited > >According to Introvigne, mind control, or "mental >manipulation" or "mental destabilisation", are merely >more scientific-sounding terms for the brainwashing. > >"That label has been discredited by mental health >scholars", he says, so now we say "mind control" to >explain away behaviour we "don't quite understand". > >Perhaps a beady eye should be kept on developments >within the worlds of memory-controlling medicine and >hypersonic messaging, but it might not be necessary to >don Aluminium Foil Deflector Beanies just yet. Study gun control methods of indoctrination. Just keep an eye on governments, propaganda organisations, the UN and the media. Know what you are looking for. NoSpam

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